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Full Member | Редактировать | Профиль | Сообщение | Цитировать | Сообщить модератору Samovarov Цитата: А можно поподробнее на эту тему? Что это за миф за такой? Вообще, неплохо сказано, "миф о русском государстве" - типа и государства-то такого нет. Мол, противоречит фактам и принципам существования. Это типичная система аргументации, когда приводится утверждение и подтверждается общими словами типа "противоречит фактам", "полный нонсенс", "интеллектуалы принимали на веру внушенные им в детском и подростковом возрасте тезисы сталинской пропаганды" и пр. Причём самой характерной чертой таких fast talkers (прошу прощения за английское название) является то, что ни одного факта не приводится. Вот ты конкретные факты приведи (желательно со ссылкой на первоисточник), а я уже с ними поспорю, приведя тебе другие факты, тоже со ссылками на то, откуда они взяты. Вот, кстати, факты про миф о страдании евреев в СССР. Жирным шрифтом выделена книга из которой взяты цитаты, указаны страницы. Al Szymanski, Human Rights in the Soviet Union (London: Zed Books, 1984) Цитата: Professionally and economically the Jewish people have fared extremely well in the period of Soviet power. They are, for example, far more highly educated than any other nationality in the Soviet Union, and in 1970-71 the ratio of higher education students per 1,000 population was 49.2. This is almost twice as high as the next highest group, the Georgians, who had a ratio of 27.1 per 1,000. (Russians rank fourth on this indicator with a ratio of 21.1 per 1,000). [See Table 2.6 "Higher Education by Nationality" on p. 49.] In the Russian Republic in the early 1970s, of every 1,000 Jews of ten years old and above 344 completed some form of higher education, compared with only 43 out of 1,000 Russians; an 8 : 1 ratio in favor of the Jews. Comparable ratios in the Ukraine were 6.5 : 1 in Belorussia 7 : 1 and in Latvia 5.5 : 1. [Zev Katz, Rosemarie Rogers, and Frederic Harned, eds., Handbook of Major Soviet Nationalities (New York: Free Press, 1975), p. 377.] In the early 1970s approximately 110,000 Jewish students were in institutions of higher education; this represents 2.55% of the total -- an over-representation factor of almost three. In 1960 77,000 Jewish students had been in such institutions. [William Korey, The Soviet Cage (New York: Viking Press, 1973), p. 59.] [p.91] In 1971, 6.7% of all scientific workers in the Soviet Union were Jews. In that year 0.9% of all Soviets were Jews, therefore, in this field Jews were over-represented by a factor of 7.5. Armenians, with an over-representation factor of 1.5 in the same year came next, and Russians, with an overrepresentation factor of 1.2 were fourth in this respect. [See Table 2.7 “Scientific Workers by Nationality 1971” on p. 50.] Around 1970 about 68% of all Jews employed in the Russian Republic were specialists with either a higher or secondary special education; this compares with 19% of Russians. [Zev Katz, Rosemarie Rogers, and Frederic Harned, eds., Handbook of Major Soviet Nationalities (New York: Free Press, 1975), p. 377.] [p.91] - - - Jews have the highest representation in the Communist Party of any other Soviet nationality. In 1965, 80 out of every 1,000 Jews belonged to the Party, compared to the Soviet average of 51 per 1,000. [William Korey, The Soviet Cage (New York: Viking Press, 1973), p. 57.] In 1969, Jews made up 1.5% of the Party (an over-representation factor of 1.67). [Lionel Kochan, The Jews in Soviet Russia Since 1917 (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1978), p. 345.] [p.94] - - - Between 1920 and 1940 the percentage of Jews in the Party fluctuated around 4.5% to 5.0%. [Lionel Kochan, The Jews in Soviet Russia Since 1917 (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1978), p. 345; Zev Katz, Rosemarie Rogers, and Frederic Harned, eds., Handbook of Major Soviet Nationalities (New York: Free Press, 1975), p. 368.] [p.94] In the 1920s, 25% of the Central Committee was Jewish, 10% in the late 1930s, 2-3% in the 1950s, and .3% in the 1960s. [William Korey, The Soviet Cage (New York: Viking Press, 1973), p. 56.] [p.94] | |